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		<title>By: The Most Brutally Honest Look At K-On Episode 05 You Are Ever Likely To See &#171; When Anime Past Meets Present</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Most Brutally Honest Look At K-On Episode 05 You Are Ever Likely To See &#171; When Anime Past Meets Present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 05:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to which I replied, &#8220;Hell yeah I will!&#8221;.  Or perhaps it was just that while reading Behind The Nihon Review one of Sorrow-Kun&#8217;s quips while talking about this show struck a chord with me: Sorrow-Kun: I could say stuff like “this isn’t my sort of anime”, but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to which I replied, &#8220;Hell yeah I will!&#8221;.  Or perhaps it was just that while reading Behind The Nihon Review one of Sorrow-Kun&#8217;s quips while talking about this show struck a chord with me: Sorrow-Kun: I could say stuff like “this isn’t my sort of anime”, but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kaioshin Sama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaioshin Sama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do worry that my initial exhilaration at finding a show like Eden of The East will peter out into disappointment like with Tytania should it not live up to my expectations for it, but for now it&#039;s riding strong.  As long as they don&#039;t introduce a Lira like character.....well even still I think I&#039;d prefer to just keep my fingers crossed.

As always we seem to be brain twinning on all the titles where our viewership has crossed over, including FMA with my feeling that they are blazing through the early parts of the story.  I&#039;m also starting to feel a lack of purpose in the remake.  I&#039;m guessing the stories from the first series that are missing up to this point must have been anime originals or something.  Being one of those people that doesn&#039;t believe that because something is following the source material that it automatically makes it better, I may be forced at some point to step back and compare the two to see if this effort was all worth it.  

And then of course there&#039;s, K-On which is just overdoing it on things that non-moe fans would find unimportant and even some things they would.  It&#039;s definitely trying to hard to please a certain demographic and comes across as desperately seeking approval that the demographic would have probably already given it anyway.  As for Mio, I don&#039;t think she&#039;ll reach the level of most moe traits assigned to a character that the heroine of Yamazaki and Sato&#039;s eroge from Welcome To The N.H.K did, but it&#039;s entirely possibly at the rate they are going that she&#039;ll finish a close second.  

By the way, to answer your query that I never got back to you on, no I don&#039;t think that all slice of life shows are like K-On, because I know first hand that they aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do worry that my initial exhilaration at finding a show like Eden of The East will peter out into disappointment like with Tytania should it not live up to my expectations for it, but for now it&#8217;s riding strong.  As long as they don&#8217;t introduce a Lira like character&#8230;..well even still I think I&#8217;d prefer to just keep my fingers crossed.</p>
<p>As always we seem to be brain twinning on all the titles where our viewership has crossed over, including FMA with my feeling that they are blazing through the early parts of the story.  I&#8217;m also starting to feel a lack of purpose in the remake.  I&#8217;m guessing the stories from the first series that are missing up to this point must have been anime originals or something.  Being one of those people that doesn&#8217;t believe that because something is following the source material that it automatically makes it better, I may be forced at some point to step back and compare the two to see if this effort was all worth it.  </p>
<p>And then of course there&#8217;s, K-On which is just overdoing it on things that non-moe fans would find unimportant and even some things they would.  It&#8217;s definitely trying to hard to please a certain demographic and comes across as desperately seeking approval that the demographic would have probably already given it anyway.  As for Mio, I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;ll reach the level of most moe traits assigned to a character that the heroine of Yamazaki and Sato&#8217;s eroge from Welcome To The N.H.K did, but it&#8217;s entirely possibly at the rate they are going that she&#8217;ll finish a close second.  </p>
<p>By the way, to answer your query that I never got back to you on, no I don&#8217;t think that all slice of life shows are like K-On, because I know first hand that they aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: gaguri</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaguri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Sorrow if you are looking for more series to try out I guess I can direct you to a harmlessly cute (and educational? lol) show that is called Marie and Gali. I know you are a scientist and this show is supposed to be a &#039;science show&#039;. You&#039;re going to see things like right-hand-rule for electric current, the fact that everything falls at the same rate, Marie Curie, Da Vinci, Galileo, etc etc...

Of course, they&#039;re all primary-easy high school stuff but still, I like it for the style aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sorrow if you are looking for more series to try out I guess I can direct you to a harmlessly cute (and educational? lol) show that is called Marie and Gali. I know you are a scientist and this show is supposed to be a &#8217;science show&#8217;. You&#8217;re going to see things like right-hand-rule for electric current, the fact that everything falls at the same rate, Marie Curie, Da Vinci, Galileo, etc etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, they&#8217;re all primary-easy high school stuff but still, I like it for the style aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: zzeroparticle</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzeroparticle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, it&#039;s the aberration you describe and that we can blame it on something like the worldwide economic situation, which might have led to companies going after shows that will sell rather than take on riskier bets.

Anyways, thanks for pointing out Cross Game to me.  First episode was most excellent and I wish I could reciprocate, but most of the titles I&#039;ve seen so far haven&#039;t been all that great.  I&#039;m tempted to throw down Guin Saga, except I need to see the second episode before making any sort of recommendation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, it&#8217;s the aberration you describe and that we can blame it on something like the worldwide economic situation, which might have led to companies going after shows that will sell rather than take on riskier bets.</p>
<p>Anyways, thanks for pointing out Cross Game to me.  First episode was most excellent and I wish I could reciprocate, but most of the titles I&#8217;ve seen so far haven&#8217;t been all that great.  I&#8217;m tempted to throw down Guin Saga, except I need to see the second episode before making any sort of recommendation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Flash Sword Irene
No, don&#039;t worry, that wasn&#039;t directed at you.  I&#039;m more talking about cynics on other sites, ie, people who criticize every season but don&#039;t bother going off-mainstream to find good shows.  And yeah, Mouryou no Hako is one of many shows that need more fansubber love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Flash Sword Irene<br />
No, don&#8217;t worry, that wasn&#8217;t directed at you.  I&#8217;m more talking about cynics on other sites, ie, people who criticize every season but don&#8217;t bother going off-mainstream to find good shows.  And yeah, Mouryou no Hako is one of many shows that need more fansubber love.</p>
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		<title>By: Flash Sword Irene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flash Sword Irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.  Somehow, it is not hard to believe that the comment on people lamenting on &quot;Crap Seasons&quot; was taking a shot at myself.  Although, I usually have a reason for my disdain whether or not people like it.  Even then, it is amazing that you have enough tolerance to go through all of those shows bearing the pain of mediocrity or worse.

Not counting last seasons sequels and Casshern Sins bridging from last year, last season was still rather sad since Rideback and KMS Erin (ongoing) were the only real winners.  Genji would have been excellent had the fansubbing love been given since the show is quite good.  (Neglect of Mouryou no Hako saddens me to death.)  

This season I am following FMA: Brotherhood, Higashi no Eden, and Souten Kouro since there is nothing else within my interests.  Unfortunately, Eden still seems to be a show that can very well implode at any given time while Souten Kouro had a rough outing in its second episode.  Ditto on FMA: Brotherhood since the execution has been lacking.  Still, one can only hope that next season will not actually be worse since this should be as low as it can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.  Somehow, it is not hard to believe that the comment on people lamenting on &#8220;Crap Seasons&#8221; was taking a shot at myself.  Although, I usually have a reason for my disdain whether or not people like it.  Even then, it is amazing that you have enough tolerance to go through all of those shows bearing the pain of mediocrity or worse.</p>
<p>Not counting last seasons sequels and Casshern Sins bridging from last year, last season was still rather sad since Rideback and KMS Erin (ongoing) were the only real winners.  Genji would have been excellent had the fansubbing love been given since the show is quite good.  (Neglect of Mouryou no Hako saddens me to death.)  </p>
<p>This season I am following FMA: Brotherhood, Higashi no Eden, and Souten Kouro since there is nothing else within my interests.  Unfortunately, Eden still seems to be a show that can very well implode at any given time while Souten Kouro had a rough outing in its second episode.  Ditto on FMA: Brotherhood since the execution has been lacking.  Still, one can only hope that next season will not actually be worse since this should be as low as it can get.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow-kun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow-kun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ghostlightning
Yeah, but I don&#039;t think last season was worse.  Sure, there was a lot of crap, but I really got a lot of enjoyment out of series like Marimite 4th and Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou, and I&#039;m still enjoying Kemono no Souja Erin.  RideBack wasn&#039;t anywhere as good as I thought it could be, but it was still reasonable in the end.  I guess it was disappointing because it didn&#039;t fulfill its potential.  Tytania was a massive disappointment, but I realized it wasn&#039;t going to be all that great about half way through, so that allowed me to readjust my expectations for it.

@Shadowmage
Oh geez.  Well I guess I&#039;ll have to readjust my expectations for that series too, since I just took all the ravings from manga fans at face value.  I&#039;m still struggling to understand the justification for this remake, but I guess it&#039;s basically a case of squeaky wheel, which, as Akira talked about in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20090427/otaku-soul-an-interview-with-yamamoto-yutaka/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;last post&lt;/a&gt;, is even more relevant in anime.

@A.H.
Shin Mazinger.  Giant robots and lots of over-the-top GAR.  Not really my thing.

@Baka-Raptor
Mindless fanservice.  Again, not my thing.  Nothing wrong with fanservice, but it&#039;s a challenge to make fanservice anime that aren&#039;t obnoxious.  If I had more time to spare this season, I&#039;d consider it, but one more mindless anime on top of all the other mindless anime I&#039;m following this season would pretty much be the straw that broke the camel&#039;s back.

@zzeroparticle
The problem with Winter 2006 titles like F/SN and Kashimashi is that they actually showed promise when they started, but their failure to deliver was spectacular.  I heard that Yomigaeru Sora - Rescue Wings wasn&#039;t too bad in the end, but I never bothered to follow through with it.  And, assuming that this season also fails to deliver more than three decent titles, I&#039;m currently prepared to write it off as an aberration.  If we get lots of consecutive seasons like this, then we need to start asking questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ghostlightning<br />
Yeah, but I don&#8217;t think last season was worse.  Sure, there was a lot of crap, but I really got a lot of enjoyment out of series like Marimite 4th and Zoku Natsume Yuujinchou, and I&#8217;m still enjoying Kemono no Souja Erin.  RideBack wasn&#8217;t anywhere as good as I thought it could be, but it was still reasonable in the end.  I guess it was disappointing because it didn&#8217;t fulfill its potential.  Tytania was a massive disappointment, but I realized it wasn&#8217;t going to be all that great about half way through, so that allowed me to readjust my expectations for it.</p>
<p>@Shadowmage<br />
Oh geez.  Well I guess I&#8217;ll have to readjust my expectations for that series too, since I just took all the ravings from manga fans at face value.  I&#8217;m still struggling to understand the justification for this remake, but I guess it&#8217;s basically a case of squeaky wheel, which, as Akira talked about in the <a href="http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20090427/otaku-soul-an-interview-with-yamamoto-yutaka/" rel="nofollow">last post</a>, is even more relevant in anime.</p>
<p>@A.H.<br />
Shin Mazinger.  Giant robots and lots of over-the-top GAR.  Not really my thing.</p>
<p>@Baka-Raptor<br />
Mindless fanservice.  Again, not my thing.  Nothing wrong with fanservice, but it&#8217;s a challenge to make fanservice anime that aren&#8217;t obnoxious.  If I had more time to spare this season, I&#8217;d consider it, but one more mindless anime on top of all the other mindless anime I&#8217;m following this season would pretty much be the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>@zzeroparticle<br />
The problem with Winter 2006 titles like F/SN and Kashimashi is that they actually showed promise when they started, but their failure to deliver was spectacular.  I heard that Yomigaeru Sora &#8211; Rescue Wings wasn&#8217;t too bad in the end, but I never bothered to follow through with it.  And, assuming that this season also fails to deliver more than three decent titles, I&#8217;m currently prepared to write it off as an aberration.  If we get lots of consecutive seasons like this, then we need to start asking questions.</p>
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		<title>By: zzeroparticle</title>
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		<dc:creator>zzeroparticle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided to look back on Winter 2006 just to sate my curiosity and wow... that was a pretty bad season, with titles like FS/N, Kashimashi, and the critically acclaimed Lingerie Soldier Papillon Rose bravely leading the charge. While this season is nowhere as bad, I think we&#039;ve been stuck with a lot of shows that are just merely average.

Makes me reflect back on Akira&#039;s post when he mentioned how &lt;blockquote&gt;anime have fallen into a few large categories and each anime attempts to vary only just slightly. There hasn’t been a genre-shattering, industry-shaking innovation in quite a while. Each anime attempts to differentiate itself in minute ways. Instead of making an artistic statement, most directors seem more interested in pandering to a very specific niche of a fandom.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A damning statement it might be, but one that is only too true given the current state of affairs.  Let&#039;s hope this is more of a blip than a long-term trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to look back on Winter 2006 just to sate my curiosity and wow&#8230; that was a pretty bad season, with titles like FS/N, Kashimashi, and the critically acclaimed Lingerie Soldier Papillon Rose bravely leading the charge. While this season is nowhere as bad, I think we&#8217;ve been stuck with a lot of shows that are just merely average.</p>
<p>Makes me reflect back on Akira&#8217;s post when he mentioned how<br />
<blockquote>anime have fallen into a few large categories and each anime attempts to vary only just slightly. There hasn’t been a genre-shattering, industry-shaking innovation in quite a while. Each anime attempts to differentiate itself in minute ways. Instead of making an artistic statement, most directors seem more interested in pandering to a very specific niche of a fandom.</p></blockquote>
<p>A damning statement it might be, but one that is only too true given the current state of affairs.  Let&#8217;s hope this is more of a blip than a long-term trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Baka-Raptor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baka-Raptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget Queen&#039;s Blade</description>
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		<title>By: A.H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eden of the East (entertaining and fairly intriguing at the moment) and Cross Game (I&#039;ve already seen Touch so the formula, with some tweaks, isn&#039;t unfamiliar) are probably the best overall titles, but I&#039;m enjoying Shin Mazinger (seems like a rather fun remake), Guin Saga (not very original but still good for classic fantasy), and even Phantom (it helps that the series is based on an original work which predates BeeTrain&#039;s, for a reason, so the mixed execution doesn&#039;t quite bother me) as well.

I&#039;m not particularly interested in seeing DBZ or FMA again at this time and the shows won&#039;t be going away anytime soon, so those are not currently on my watch list.

Haven&#039;t had the time to see most of the other shows mentioned but, on the surface, only Valkyria Chronicles and maybe, though it&#039;s a long shot, Ristorante Paradiso, sound like I&#039;d actively want to check them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eden of the East (entertaining and fairly intriguing at the moment) and Cross Game (I&#8217;ve already seen Touch so the formula, with some tweaks, isn&#8217;t unfamiliar) are probably the best overall titles, but I&#8217;m enjoying Shin Mazinger (seems like a rather fun remake), Guin Saga (not very original but still good for classic fantasy), and even Phantom (it helps that the series is based on an original work which predates BeeTrain&#8217;s, for a reason, so the mixed execution doesn&#8217;t quite bother me) as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not particularly interested in seeing DBZ or FMA again at this time and the shows won&#8217;t be going away anytime soon, so those are not currently on my watch list.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t had the time to see most of the other shows mentioned but, on the surface, only Valkyria Chronicles and maybe, though it&#8217;s a long shot, Ristorante Paradiso, sound like I&#8217;d actively want to check them out.</p>
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