Using Google Reader SI to Keep Track of Your Own Blogosphere Comments

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One of the things I’ve been experimenting with lately has been using Google Reader Shared Items to keep track of my own comments on the blogosphere. There are a couple of reasons I’ve started doing this, one of which is that I decided it was imperative that I had some method of keeping tabs on the comments I was leaving around the aniblogosphere. I don’t like the idea of subscribing to the comment feeds of individual posts, since it’s inevitably high maintainable, unless you have no problem with clogging up your feed reader with feeds that you generally only have a temporary interest in.

Now I’m not advocating that this is the best way to go about tracking your own blogosphere comments. In my brief research, I came across BackType, which is specifically designed for this sort of thing. There are also Wordpress plugins, but I have unanswered questions about their suitability to multi-author blogs. The same goes for BackType, which apparently searches for URL rather than alias or both. So, if you share a blog with other authors (as a lot of us do), then these services won’t discriminate… and nor are they comprehensive, possibly an innate flaw in the automated process (eg., do a BackType search for “Sorrow-kun“, and you won’t find any comments I’ve left on this very site.)

The disadvantage of using Google Reader Shared Items to keep track of your own comments is that it’s not automated, and you must do everything yourself. But it’s not any more difficult than sharing items normally. Another disadvantage also is how it might be received. The perception may be that directly sharing one’s own writing while indirectly sharing another’s article is narcissistic. I wouldn’t strongly protest that notion, which is why, right now, I’ll put the unapologetic disclaimer on this that the primary intended benefactor of compiling an account of my own wanderings through the blogosphere is myself, and any other utility is secondary. It’s not all that unlike an internet forum, in that a forum which doesn’t give you the option of being able to look up your own and sometimes other people’s past posts is a rarity. The blogosphere struggles to do this, since, unlike an internet forum which is a tangible, structured community that exists on one site, the blogosphere, as a community, is naturally fragmented and amorphous, a consequence of the fact that it exists over several websites that have no obligation to interact with each other. One might argue that blogs and forums are meant to be different. I would say, yes, but not by that much.

The advantages become apparent when trying to answer the question “why Google Reader?” The first part of the answer is that it’s pretty much become the feed reader of choice on the anime blogosphere, so sharing becomes relatively easy. The second and more important part is that it’s incredibly flexible, which gives it a lot of power. When you take a note with the “Note in Reader” bookmarklet, it puts that note onto a page which you may make public. The beauty of this is that this page has its own feed, so you can either subscribe to a person’s page of shared items or follow them directly under the “People you follow” tab, depending on your preference. You can also choose to keep your “comments” items separate from your regular shared items. Which means, there’s no need to force your own comments at the people who already follow your shared items… just use a new tag, and make the tag’s folder public. Another option is whether to make these items commentable (which, as far as I can tell, is a somewhat recent feature of Google Reader). My suggestion would be not to, since the idea of making a feed public is to give people who follow it a hook into an ongoing conversation. A new, meta conversation prompted by a comment posted on the original article is kinda beside the point, IMO… that’s pretty much how Google Reader Shared Items are already being used. How to do it:

1. If you’re unfamiliar with Google Reader and its note-taking feature, start here.

2. Access Google Reader, click “Notes” on the left side bar, find the “Note in Reader” bookmarklet and drag it onto your browser’s toolbar.

3. Immediately after posting a comment, a typical Wordpress blog will instantly redirect you to your comment’s permalink, with a fragment identifier included. For example, if the URL of the article you just commented on is “http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20090825/using-google-reader-si-to-keep-track-of-your-own-blogosphere-comments/” then you’ll be redirected to “http://behind-the.nihonreview.com/20090825/using-google-reader-si-to-keep-track-of-your-own-blogosphere-comments/#comment-22xx”. Provided you don’t change anything else prior to adding your note, the comment permalink will be saved as is (which is convenient because, when you return to it, you’ll be immediately be focused to the comment within the page). TL;DR, don’t mess with the URL after posting a comment.

4. Select your comment. Click the “Note in Reader” bookmarklet. In “Add tags”, enter the name of the folder you wish to save your comment in (I use “Comments”). Using a new tag specifically for comments, different from your existing folder names, is recommended. Check or uncheck “Add to shared items”, that’s your choice. If the tagged folder is public (which I’ll get to next), it’ll be essentially shared anyway, but only from the public page (and/or its feed).

5. To put this folder onto a public page, go back to Google Reader, then click “Manage subscriptions” at the bottom of the left side bar. Click “Folders and Tags”. Click the RSS symbol next to the tag which you’re using for your comments to make it public. Click “View public page”. You now have a page which can be used to centralize your own blogosphere comments and can be shared readily.

6. Repeat steps 3 and 4 each time you leave a new comment on someone’s blog.

There are a couple of things I still haven’t got past. I can’t see a way to keep track of how many other comments an article has from your own shared items feed, which is a bit of a bummer, since my original intention was for this to replace comment feeds, but this shortcoming means that they never completely will, and you have to manually check to see if there are any subsequent comments after your own (which is annoying, since RSS should mean never having to manually check… anything). I still prefer not to use comment feeds, but the inability of a shared comment items feed to completely cover every function of a normal comment feed (and in a way which is more streamlined, organized and has more long-term utility) means that you’ll still sometimes have to make that choice for yourself. It’s also a little tricky to be perfectly consistent in what you select to share. Some sites have a nifty feature where the comments are numbered, and if you click the number, it’ll instantly select your entire comment. Most sites don’t have this convenience. I like to share my gravatar. Sharing a “reply” link that comes with sites that have threaded comments is a good idea if you want to encourage others to join in the conversation.

There are ups and downs with this system, but I find it to be a very useful way to track where I’ve been on the blogosphere. Whenever I want to refer to an article I’ve read on the blogosphere, I know that provided I’ve left a comment on it, it’s at fingertips, and looking back quickly over previous comments is sometimes a lot easier than trying to remember relevant keywords to do a search for it. It’s also just nice to be able to check instantly what I’ve said and where I’ve said it… it’s otherwise easy to forget where you’ve commented because the blogosphere is so immense. Optimistically, sharing one’s comments is yet another, less direct way to expose other people to worthwhile articles (and, I guess, more importantly, discussions) on the anime blogosphere.

With all that said and done, here’s my comments page.

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7 Responses to “Using Google Reader SI to Keep Track of Your Own Blogosphere Comments”

  1. Man, reminds me that of the ‘comments breadcrumb’ tracking with GRSI I thought of doing before, following after otou-san, but woe is me and my laziness .__.;;;

    that said, add me in yer Google Reader friends, because GRSI is meant to be merry and fun too~ :D

  2. @usagijen
    Ah, damn, I feel like a bit of an ass now because I didn’t realize the idea has already been proposed. Well, maybe I can claim that this is the first practical implementation of it… :) (That is, until someone inevitably shows me otherwise).

    I did actually read your article a long time ago but didn’t give much thought to the “breadcrumbing” concept at the time, since I was still very much learning the basics of Google Reader. It wasn’t until a few months ago (Feb actually) that the method for doing this crystallized, so I’ll just say that your article probably subconsciously inspired me.

    Will do. Part of the reason I wrote this article is because I’m going to try to be a little more active in GRSI, and this is meant to be a bit of heads up so people don’t wonder why my shared items are filled with my own comments and tell me that I’m doing it wrong. I’m not huge on the idea of using GRSI to go behind other bloggers’ backs (I know you wrote that article semi-tongue-in-cheek, but there are elements of that seeping into the current GRSI culture), which is why I tend to think that, where there’s an even choice between a shared item and a direct comment, the latter is better, even when you’re criticizing the original author. One of the things that appeals to me about this is that you’re essentially doing both.

  3. no offense or anything but your sharing your comments is realllly annoying on GRSI. so much noise. then again I can’t say much… >.<

  4. You could always just star posts in your Google Reader that you’ve commented on…

  5. I don’t even keep track of blog posts that I actually think are excellent (unless it’s something I really REALLY want to link back as a reference for my future post…) so keeping tack of my half-assed comments (vast majority of them being…not worth of publically sharing tbh) doesn’t seem like a very appealing idea to me personally…

  6. @lelangir
    Ah, but it’s not noise to me. Articles that are worth commenting on are articles that I feel are worth reading and, better yet, worth discussing. But I guess the point of this isn’t so much that the comments are shared as it is that they’re centralized and come with a feed. The “sharing” component of it is like an optional “bonus” (or bane depending on how you see it). People who don’t want to add their comment items to the followable “shared items” feed don’t have to. If they make their “comments” folder public, then practically their items are shared, but their regular shared items are disentangled from their comments shared items. As for readers who prefer people to keep these items disentangled… I’m not sure. We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it, but as it stands now, I rather think the prerogative lies with the person who does the sharing, not the person who is being shared to.

    @Kiri
    I use starred posts for other purposes. My starred posts are articles that I consider to be important. I guess starring items does achieve essentially the same thing, and, if you use tags in the same way as I’ve proposed here, there’s not a huge amount of functional difference, as the result, ie, a centralized page listing places where you’ve commented that has a feed, is (almost) the same. There are a couple of differences. You can’t star a post in Google Reader from the post itself, but you can note it (see step 4). Also, you can’t reference your specific comment, only the page that it’s on.

    @gaguri
    Well, I’ve looked at this basically from the point of view of features that are available on an internet forum, and the majority of them make it pretty easy to look back at one’s own and others’ posts (and topics). This option isn’t so straightforward on the blogosphere. My proposal is a way to do it for people who want that option, in a way that is reliable and not too difficult (…and can be shared readily).

  7. Use backtype: http://www.backtype.com/ then follow yourself.

    I do think that your comments do constitute ‘noise’ (on GRSI) and you can share things on GRSI of broader interest. People who follow you there are more likely to be subscribers of your blog anyway, so no need to share your posts.

    I hope this helps.

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