My Mom is a Tsundere: Part 3
Although I fully intended to conclude my last article within two posts, I felt quite unsatisfied with the way the article concluded; my research into the origins of tsundere further back in the 80s ended up taking up more space than I had intended. My fellow colleagues Sorrow-kun and Elineas noticed that I had left some questions unanswered. Indeed, I’m guilty of this. So this third part will be an attempt to address and elaborate on the ultimate question of sexuality.
Elineas pointed out to me that the problem with a purely logical form of thinking about character types – which I argued for in my first post – is that it raises the question why a tsundere would be more attractive than alternative, equally logic-based character types (I would think that every archetype is built on this). The conclusion is that there must be something beyond the logic.
Fact Versus Fiction
Once we’re quite aware of the fact that much of our everyday language is built on folk psychology, it’s easy to see that a consequence of this is a mistaken understanding of how people will act. As every one of us knows, it’s impossible to predict 100% how people are going to behave in any given situation. By understanding the essence of a tsundere character, we can enjoy the accuracy of our predictions without having to worry about the character acting out of character from the framework they were meant to be in.
In order for this model to really have any explanatory power in regards to why tsundere has become such a buzz word, even outside of the otakusphere, I must address how this cognitive apparatus links in some way to reality. The starting point will be from the conclusion of my second part in this series.
Earlier, I argued that when we start thinking of tsundere as an inherent personality or character type, it is a reapplication of the extraction of an abstract logical pattern from more complex characters. The tsundere is thus become enshrined in (what Azuma Hiroki would call) the “database” of otaku culture, and the creation of simulacrum fulfilling this database has become popular precisely because it imposes a logical structure on reality, which is far less predictable than the storylines of recent anime.
If we really consider what this means, it means that this is another method by which humans project their own perspective onto what may seem to be a more complicated reality. In fact, mass media has abused this tendency to simplify the status of certain groups from the past up until even now, particularly in the treatment of minorities. This is nothing new.
Socializing
Similarly, the tsundere does precisely this because it attempts to shed light on the difficulties of a real world phenomenon that confuses almost everyone: romance. For male otaku, labeling a girl “tsundere” helps to explain why the girl would perhaps dislike them despite the fact that, from their perspective, the dislike is unfounded. What if the girl actually really likes me but just can’t express it? Aw, how cute!
I can’t help but think here that this is a misunderstanding about how socializing works in real life. For example, attractiveness isn’t always the most logical thing. Sometimes a sweet girl is wrapped up in a cyclical love-hate relationship with an abusive boyfriend, and other times people will instantly judge someone based on appearance. Generally, people understand these minute aspects of socializing, and attempt to be wary of them when functioning at social events. People dress nice, often times act different from how they would if they were alone at home, and even change their language or tone of voice to suit the occasion. However, people who have difficulties with certain social events may find themselves more isolated, often without quite understanding why.
Or, perhaps they do understand. Core otaku, the ones we imagine frequenting Akihabara but otherwise staying in their homes all day (read hikikomori), are most likely aware that socializing involves the above mentioned things, yet they may find such things to be meaningless. Fashion and looks may not be important to the otaku, so when they’re judged simply by the way they dress, it becomes a question of whether it’s their own lack of ability to socialize or a problem with the way the person judging them thinks. Chances are, it’s the latter.
Why I Would Marry a Tsundere
In fact, I touched on this idea of cognitive dissonance earlier in June, and I think it has a direct connection with how tsundere have become so popular amongst otaku. Rather than blame oneself for not being able to socialize correctly, it’s far easier to simply provide an alternative reason for why a girl would be so unfairly judgmental. This alternative reason is the tsundere.
Tsundere, in many shows, end up actually falling for the male lead because the protagonist somehow demonstrates his own worth, thereby attracting that girl to him. Likewise, otaku may begin to think that girls can be won over if they were capable of fulfilling the same requirements as the main character (of a harem anime, for instance). Basically, these girls are unreasonably hateful, but the guy can win such a girl over if he just shows her his nice side. Wishful thinking, perhaps.
Once we realize that otaku may entertain the idea that most girls are ignorant of their attractive traits, we also realize the reason why tsundere may be thought of as a prime romantic target. By projecting the tsundere as an example of real world psychology, one that acts according to how we would predict they act, the tsundere becomes a goal in the game of love for otaku. Oversimplification of people’s personality (as a tsundere) and of love (as a game with a logical structure) is projected onto reality, and the consequence of this is that we associate sexual attraction (in real life) with the abstract concept of a tsundere. Especially since this tsundere, once captured by the main character, is fully willing to develop the relationship further towards a more intimate and physical level.
The Real Conclusion
To summarize, tsundere seem sexual because we think they have a bearing on real life relationships, and that they represent a simplified version of the complexities inherent in mating rituals in society. Otaku, especially core otaku who have a difficulty with romance, may find this type of character to be far more attractive than, say, a character who is never angered and is always willing to comfort the male protagonist, because it seems so unrealistic to have a character that is always so understanding. However, there is no real thing as a tsundere, and its inherent sexuality is actually targeted towards desirable (albeit oversimplified) real women, not 2D ones.
Thus, three mechanisms converge to create the mirage of tsundere sexuality. The first is folk psychology and the logical structure of it. The second is a decision-tree method of thinking about romance. Finally, the third is a real world bit of cognitive dissonance, which finally bridges together the abstract concept of tsun and dere into reality as a personality type associated with real women.
I do think that the recent boom in the creation of tsundere characters is an extension of this process, which most likely began post 80s and during the 90s, most notably around the time of Evangelion with the appearance of Asuka Langley Soryu. Azuma’s point about otaku being conditioned to moe elements applies here, in that newer fans of anime as a medium become exposed to an already overly sexualized conception of tsundere, and thus seem to adopt the same attitude toward tsundere characters that socially awkward otaku did when first popularizing the notion of tsundere.
However, the caveat is that it is equally as likely for other idealized characters to be linked with reality, and thus certain individuals may find them more attractive than the tsundere. For example, someone who grows up knowing no motherly love may find the understanding, gentle, and soothing idealization in anime to be more attractive. When I said in part 2 that there is a bit of subjectivity associated with sexuality, I think it lies in the connection between how otaku think about a fictional character and his/her relationship with reality.
Notes:
I think some of us may be wondering why so much discussion has been about tsundere. For me, the reason is that it offers an interesting bit of insight into how otaku think. By theorizing about the origins of moe archetypes, perhaps we can discover more about the reasons why we like parts of otaku culture, instead of just knowing we like it.
Images are courtesy of moe.imouto.org.



I’m drowning in my tears right now.
This makes much more sense to me. I can see tsundere as vast oversimplification of real women and real romance, which, to me, explains why they’re much more easy to sexualize than the idealization of a perfectly submissive waifu type character. I think it’s kinda funny that you almost talk about tsundere as a misunderstood minority that don’t get a fair media portrayal. Maybe the otakusphere and writers had a better (or, at least, more complete/complex) understanding of tsundere back in the 80s than they do now, without actually consciously recognizing it.
Hi Kylaran, thank you for commenting on my blog. I really appreciate that.
Very interesting reading your article, though I can’t argue intellectually, so I write what I felt from my experience.
Fact vs Fiction, or 3-D vs 2-D. I would say 2-D is much better. One reason is, like you pointed out, accurate prediction, or especially for sensitive guys it has to be a sure thing. Have to declare, “I can see the ending!” Otherwise, phobias will take over based on past 3-D experiences.
For tsundere, well, I think many otakus are M instead of S. Do-M. Especially considering a lot of soshokukei-danshi these days. Yutori-generation after the bubble economy burst. So, tsundere is right on our M spot. I’m not that into imouto-tsundere-moe though, but rather ane-moe. So, when I play Love Plus, I don’t date Rinko. Her tsun is very anti-social and inflicting pain on me, a kind of pinching my skin type of pain. I mean I like to get teased. But real girls’ tsun is really just stuck-up and moody, no substance behind. Reminds me of harsh reality. So I don’t want to go thru PTSD in 2-D again. Yet for a 2-D girl like Rinko, she actually has a nice heart, but she feels embarrassed to be honest, and that’s really cute! There’s reason in her madness, I mean reason for being insolent. Japan is strictly based on seniority, so a kouhai girl with an attitude is really stimulating to many otakus, something I’ve lost for living in the U.S. for a long time.
Well, rather than Rinko, I’m more into a cute little sister-like girl from Amagami, Nakata Sae. Oh my Gosh, I fell in love with her. I was so immersed in her on Niconico.
In turn Nene is pretty cool, she got that 包容力. I don’t know the exact word in English, but she’s very inclusive, embracing and accepting because of her maturity. I like older girls or senpai. So, she can take the initiative, lead me, I would be a good follower. I like girls with leadership. So, mature girls are very attractive to me. Yes, a future hotel okami in Kyoto like Kitaoji Satsuki!
Yes, simplification is a good point. Yes, characters but also most anime theme is gakuen, so complexity of adult world is omitted. Adult romance is too business-like, not entirely based on pure passion, a symbol of eternal youth, 17 forever.
Just the way we are is the best. Yet, in the market, we are invisible. I don’t think social skill is the main reason why 25% of Japanese men of the age 20 – 34 never had any sexual relationship. 1/4 of them! That’s just way too many. It must be the stiffness of the Japanese society that is causing this trouble rather than their social skill.
I think that gentle caring character has something to do with lack of children in Japan. We don’t know mother’s cuisine, our taste was strictly developed from conbibi. It’s not like Latin America that the whole extended family meets every single event and having skinship, introducing potential mates through social dance like salsa. Familial bond is pretty weak in Japan which contributes to melancholy or saudade of otaku, and leads to moe. But I don’t think lack of motherly love led to our ane-moe. Mother is way too old for us. I would say lack of communications (skinship) with the opposite sex from our age group is the main factor. Maybe lacking biological sisters in real life, whether older or younger, or didn’t have any chance growing up playing with girls in the sandbox. Yes, a close female counterpart growing up together. We didn’t have that neighborliness. That may be why a childhood female friend turns out to be your girlfriend is a recurring theme in anime. Although a childhood female friend doesn’t really click in me.
Well, of course, these are probably more urban, not in countryside. I think otaku phenomenon is pretty much a city thing. But I guess lack of skinship is probably nation-wide.
Goddamn, I need to start getting back into the scene as reading these posts are the only thing keeping me somewhat connected to the blogosphere.
I was going to comment on the “submissive girls” equivalent of your tsundere historiograph back in part 2, but it slipped my mind almost immediately. Yet, it was still resolved here, and it shows that there are a lot of uncanny mirrors in otaku culture, many of them long forgotten and transmuted so far past their original purpose.
Thanks for the Tsundere Chronicles, everyone — I enjoyed reading it. And just assume I was drunk while making this pointless comment.
*blinks*
I can buy that. Not completely sold on it, but it’s a solid explanation.
If we were to expand that further, we’d get the notion that otaku do want actual relationships instead of just their idealistic 2D ones, as they choose to like the more “realistic” (which is hardly realistic at all!) archetype. Nevertheless, they loathe the idea of any responsibility emotionally or physically, which makes them the most selfish fools in the world. So we get a paradox: the tsundere becomes a game of verisimilitude with selective escapist loopholes instead of full out escapism, which greatly supports the idea you mentioned that otaku do understand social mores instead of wringing their hands and saying “they aren’t logical!” They just don’t want to accept it.
But thanks for replying to my comment with a full article. This one really places lots of things in perspective.